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Hey, I’ll play, I usually get a lot of Cubs, and most of you won’t want them anyway.

And congrats!

Does it count I lead for a week in the beginning of the year?

Yeah. People who screw with things at the end suck.

We tried some money, but only about five people were going to come through at the time.

Definitely.

LOL. I was totally going to ask that.

A guy at work had them and most definitely the drugs were involved.

WOW.

I can see that conversation. “Honey, let’s have 1 more kid and that’s it” … and then: “Doctor, did you just say ‘triplets’ ?”

Actually, razz, I’d love to hear the story of when you guys were told. Were you floored?

Edit by dvy: start a new triplets thread, razz.

Congrats! All the best!

I have nominated PG for Commish.

Cool! You are THE MAN.

I’m in and up for switching to a keeper league if most of the others are.

I’m gunning for Taz and Beav this year.

Last year was my first baseball fantasy league…hopefully I learned a few things.

No, no. We have to draft again …then go to keeper status.

I drafted a bunch of old farts on the hopes they had one last hurrah in them. It would take me years to recover.

Nice try though Dev.

I have seen Sarge or Unvie for awhile.

Have not seen Beav much either but my guess he would be in.

I have seen Drobs at Bernies.

Has anyone tried to get him here?

QUOTE (Razzy @ Jan 18 2004, 12:38 PM)

Since I havent seen it mentioned yet, I thought I might add that I did finish third last year, and with a little bit of the luck that Beavis and Taz had, I would have won it

Have to admit Razzy made some very astute moves. The man knows his baseball.

Oh…I misunderstood. I thought you meant keeper from last season’s rosters.

Anyway,
I’m down with a keeper league or a non-keeper league. I have no
preference so I’ll support whatever everyone else wants to do.

Some of the guys might like their teams and want to make it a keeper
league now but I just don’t think it would be fair. One would certainly
draft differently if he knew he was going to have the bulk of that
roster for a few years.

Dev – would be a great addition to the
league. Hopefully, he is not quite as sharp on baseball as we all know
he is on football.

QUOTE (TTB @ Jan 18 2004, 12:49 PM)

Dev – would be a great addition to the league. Hopefully, he is not quite as sharp on baseball as we all know he is on football.

He wouldn’t be a retread.

I usually do pretty well in football and have been doing the fantasy
league thing for years in that sport but after a fast start last year
my baseball team sucked balls. I finished 9th or 10th I think. I have
much to learn in fantasy baseball.

I did however beat Grote and Davhaf!

Nah…we will refer to you as the ‘TLR’ of our league.

Some things I learned from last year, which was my first year in any fantasy league.

1)
Don’t draft for position. Draft for stats. I was scratching my head
after the 12th round wondering why some guys *still* didn’t have a
catcher. 🙂
2) You should watch the pitching matchups. Many folks
blew by me as I fell from the top 10 by making simple pitching matchup
adjustments.
3) You gotta watch Sportscenter. 🙂 Many of the young guys who start to have breakout years show up in the top 10 plays.
4)
Don’t decide to get funny with your team six weeks before the season
ends. This is a bad move and disrepectful to those who are still
playing hard.

YOU are da man! Way to go Razz.

You don’t have to pay attention to position? Interesting. So I can
draft five outfielders and skip getting a catcher or shortstop if I
want?

How do the pitching matchups work, anyway? Do you just draft a few starting pitchers and then set a rotation?

QUOTE (TTB @ Jan 18 2004, 12:59 PM)

I did however beat Grote and Davhaf!

Everyone beat me last year. I know the rules this time, won’t make the same mistake.

I lost out on not follwing suggestions 2 and 3. Everytime I went to
pick up young guy someone else already had him. I need to take more
time to study the matchups too.

Eventually you need a catcher et all unless you want a donut at the
postion. What he is saying if if the top guys at a postion you have not
filled yet are gone go ahead and draft a good player that is available
and get your catcher (or whatever) later.

So true. If you read the roto magazines they stress the by positions
approach. Sure, if you can get ARod or Nomar fine, but if not, and you
have to choose between Thome or Sosa and their 50 HRs vs. an
above-average SS that might hit 20, there is no comparison. Even though
OFs are a dime a dozen, guys that hit 50 aren’t. I made that mistake my
first year too.

Should we just take the Braves off the board this year?

Welcome Beav. Glad you found your way over here.

Watch out for TTB this season. I’m a fantasy league vet now.

Yep, that’s right Beavis.

Our hosts have been gracious enough to give us this standalone section. Feel free to discuss anything you’d like here.

And we can curse….well a little

Good to see you Beav.

We wanted to last year and had about 5 people committed.

I’d be willing to.

i’m in…maybe there can be two leagues

i’d certainly be interested in some kind of paypal bracket thing for the tourney

Any way to do that money thing retroactively
College guys gotta find beer money somehow.

I’m always up for a little gambling.

Patrick,
may I suggest giving people a little longer than Wednesday. Some people
dont start thinking about baseball till after the Superbowl (while
others, like me and some of us, start thinking about it the day after
the Cards’ final game).

Plus, Yahoo doesn’t open up registration till Feb.

Sounds good to me.

sell some plasma rookie

I don’t know about St. Louis, but out here plasma goes for about $25 per visit. You can donate twice in a 7 day period.

The only side effects I’ve seen are pasty white skin color, thirst and inability to maintain an erection for several hours.

If you’re not very good, feel free to come over to the pay league.

Sorry, I’ve got enough things to lose money on already, being in college.

Is it Wednesday yet?

Not if they are hand drawn.

Thanks, SLU. I’m doing that right now.

Done.

I’m in a league with Dave!!!! I can’t lose!!!!

We’ll see about that young mister.

Yes. That is the plan.

bwaaaaaaaaaak bwak bwak

What a douche you are. I love it!

QUOTE (Turd Ferguson @ Jan 26 2004, 09:18 AM)

Can I have a second free spot? I need any advantage I can get.

why don’t you get your head of your colon and ante up…..

skirt

If you notice, I’m signed on to the pay league too. Bring it on.

yeah.

I’m an idiot.

and a douche.

PG –

I’m in for the free league for sure. I’ll get in the pay league too if you need another player.

but I’m sponsoring TLR. How would that work? Would I have to draft one of his pet projects? or Tino?

there will be no such tomfoolery in the pay league you skirt….you wanna make some rules..buck up!

can we get dajailor in the league just so i can kick his ass

In that case, I’m switching my sponsorship of Mark Quinn to Albert Pujols.

I thought the idea was to sponsor players that you sort of expected to be crappy???

I want Edmonds, Renteria or Rolen.

I’m 100% certain DaJailor is an alter ego for someone else that has been around the PB for awhile.

I can only hope the asswipe stays over there.

At least here, 007 can ban him when he starts to act like a troll.

Dajailor was a female

I don’t mean that in any disparaging way.

I have to wonder if DaJailor is the same person who posted all those threads disparaging Marshall Faulk.

Queenofsports?

Don’t worry, we’ll keep an eye on him/her.

Mod 05

I’ll take the last free league spot PG. If its still open.

I gotta have an opportunity to pound some of the guys in that league. Beavis not in? That sucks.

DaJailor might be interested.

No, no DaJailor will simply not do. He is not a cute frat boy.

everyone gets the same players(or at least the same stats) cause that would only be fair.
That way there is no winner or losers.

schmuck

stick and stones may break my bones….

i don’t know…cost for trades? pay outs? costs for FA’s? draft style? points? what does the group want?

Scoring categories? How many at each position? Trade/transactions rules?

How about a quick primer on “How to Play Fantasy Baseball?”

I second that.

Fantasy Baseball works as such:

You draft players as if you were an expansion team’s GM (i.e., no two people in the league can have the same player).

There
are categories (runs, home runs, RBIs, stolen bases, average for
offense. wins, strikeouts, saves, ERA, whip for pitching).

If
you have Albert Pujols on your team and he goes 1/4, with a two-run
home run, then for your team you have earned 1 run, 1 home run, 2 rbis,
and a .250 batting average.

Every day (or week as was the case
last year) you field a team. Last year, each team fielded 2 players at
C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, Utility (any players), and 5 OF. For pitching, each
team fielded 5 Starting Pitchers and 4 Relief Pitchers.

As your
team collects runs, hr, etc your team is ranked 1-14 based on your
cumulative total in each category. If you rank 1st in Runs, you get
14pts. If you are last in Stolen Bases, you get 1pt. You are ranked
overall by your total points.

Highest points win. (that was me last year ).

I guess maybe the “wacky” poll can help, but for the rest, sheer charisma wins high picks.

You’ll want to hook up with at least one fantasy magazine. They will have the full listings.

Draft
order needs to be determined. It will be a snake draft, meaning whoever
goes first in the first round will go last in the second round but
first in the third round.

Last year we played that you had a
lineup and reserves. I’m not sure how Taz and everyone feels about that
but I’m not a big fan. I like to get my team and everyone plays (except
guys on the DL). You protect and replace those guys with active
players. Point is you don’t have to worry about pitching match-ups,
etc., that way.

If you want we can have a Q&A session,
perhaps in an AOL chat room, sometime before the season starts. The
first time I played I had a sit-down with someone and asked questions –
that really helped.

We’re going free. 🙂

you have to play positions

Cool. I bought a Sporting News Baseball Season issue on Saturday. I’ve started my research. You guys are IN TROUBLE.

Tip: Take Kaz Sasaki if you need a closer.

Yan

I’ve been studying since the end of last season. I’ve made at least a dozen different draft lists.

Oh yeah, screw the cubs.

Not the Dave that played last year. This year is a different story.

We can discuss that if you guys want.

Weekly made it fair to those who cannot watch daily I thought.

I really don’t have a problem with weekly, I know about it this year.
Last year,my not understanding it, cost me a lot of points the first
week or so.

I am just using last year as a template.

I thought having two per position worked out well since a balanced team could overcome a guy with a stud.

Even if it’s daily, you can still set your rosters to hold you a few days if you need to.

I like daily, but whatever the majority likes.

That’s cool. If everyone liked last year’s setup, we should go with it.

The issue with that is if you’re someone that has a ton of time you can
sit there and watch stats each day to move players around and get up on
folks. Weekly levels the playing field for those who have a limited
amount of time.

I suppose, however, just b/c player a had a a good night or two,
doesn’t mean he’ll do well the rest of the week. I found that people
who watched it too closely(like a daytrader) ended up outhinking
themselves and hurting their team overall.

Is there any middle ground here, or are those our only two options?

More often roster changes?

1-day waivers?

Not a necessity, just a thought.

we all seem to ahve time to fool with it.

Weekly, daily or season long. 🙂

Ok, kidding on the last one.

Weekly
or daily. The only option is under weekly based on which day. I just
used the settings from last year in picking Sundays.

Things that suck out.

You have walks as scoring category, but already have whip.
could replace walks with ininnings pitched.(thought that would be neat)

also maybe total bases for batters.

Did I end up in the pay league?

Ok what do others think?

Yes. To refresh everyone’s memory or for those who are too lazy to look up in the thread 😉

Here is who we have confirmed for the pay league via emails or PMs:

1) pgrote
2) SLUBLUE
3) ElviswasaBluesFan
4) St Louis Bill
5) STLCeltic
6) chazzz
7) Deacon Blues
8) Vic Torre
9) Lazydaze
10) woodsink17
11) Tazlaz
12) dvyyyyyy
13) TTB
14) Dr. Gonzo

Here is who wants to be in the free league:

1) pgrote
2) GloveSaveandaBeauty
3) Turd Ferguson
4) kah2523
5) davhaf
6) bcruise
7) devaskar
8) bpd008
9) 007
10) IUBlues39
11) bigJOE
12) andrew finisteriokis
13) cubs4ever
14) TTB

I’ve never like walks or whip in the pitcher’s scoring, but one or the other would be fine. It does seem redundant.

total
bases is ok, i’ve played with and with out it. Just seems like a way of
tacking on needless extra points. I never saw why advancing bases
(other than SB, which we have) should give a player points.

JMO.

You’re just not happy taking my play money anymore are ya?

Ok, so how do we pony up the ducketts? And how much?

Turd’s Fratboys

Can we just do the standard 5 categories in each? I really don’t want
to worry about how many times Barry Bonds strikes out or who hits the
most doubles.

BA, R, RBI, SB, HR

W, SV, K, WHIP, ERA

I liked the doubles and triples myself. I just guessed at the pitching ones.

I agree 100%.

Do a 5 x 5 league. I cannot stand all the extra categories.

We’re going to do it offline through the forums. When everyone signs up I’ll hand the order selected randomly. Then we start.

Can you send me your email address?

You sure about that? Isn’t that name tainted?

What about your email? Can you PM me?

Geesh. How about just the doubles and triples? I like them.

I assume you mean through Yahoo’s draft thing….

We also need to decide on a date good for everyone…

What we do is an offline draft. We establish the order and then do it
through the forums. Post your pick, then the next person posts theirs,
etc. It worked well last year and we still have time this year.

That’ll take forever…

Agree. Plus we’ve got that little matter of server issues here……it
would really suck to have the forum crash in the middle of the draft.

You are making more work for everyone. I would bet most roto magazines in their blurbs don’t even include those stats.

Shutouts is another example. The MLB leader last year had 3. And I’m not sure any roto mag would have that.

Do it through Yahoo…set the timer to whatever and go from there…

Ok.

I see your points of view, but I’m telling you, it’s the best way to go all around.

They way I read it is that you cannot have a draft like that.

The only options they have are:

Live Online Draft
You
will participate in a live online draft that may last several hours and
requires a Java-enabled browser. In addition, you may be unable to
participate if you are using AOL as your internet service provider, or
access the web from behind a firewall. Test your system to see if it is
draft compatible.

Autopick Draft
We will draft teams for your
league based on either our default rankings or manager’s pre-ranking of
players. Once you set your league’s draft status to Ready, your draft
will happen within 72 hours.

Offline Draft
Your league
conducts its own player draft offline and submits the results via our
draft results entry page, which can be reached from the Commissioner’s
Tools on your league overview page.

With each of these options if you have someone who is out on vacation or unavailable due to work they are screwed.

We
did it this way last year and it worked well. I’m handling the
tracking, so all folks have to do is post their pick and ping the next
person.

Our experience last year was that it does take awhile, but you start earlier and it was no problem.

pgrote
was good about updating a site with all the picks so you didn’t have to
scroll through the entire thread. I am assuming he is willing to do
that again.

From experience, I personally cannot draft on Yahoo
from my work – firewall. If you wanted to try to get together on-line 1
weekend morning or 1 weeknight, we could, but the odds of schedules
working out seem slim.

Although with this bunch, who knows – we are all on-line all the time anyway.

But of course.

So, we’re going with five and five, right?

Which ones?

And please, can’t we add triples? Give me something …..

Ugh.

The MLB leader had 14 last year. That’d be a tough category to differentiate.

I suggest sarcrifice bunts.

[that was a joke]

Ok, as you know I suck.

I’d
like a catgeory for us sucky guys so that we can have a chance based on
pure dumb luck that allows us to win a category against you experts.

All these stats are a part of the game, and what differentiates players at this level.

These stats are where the bench plays a vital role in success.

I don’t care either way, but those stats are not just luck.

Do you mean it’s not lucky for a guy to win triples in roto baseball or
not lucky for a guy like Christian Guzman to lead the league in
triples?

i think so, but at what %?

and how much is the buy in? and where do we send it?

I don’t trust you.

Ok. So are you out?

just a joke, g.

I like the weekly roster change. I simply do not have time to devote to fantasy baseball everyday.

As was mine.

I like the roster settings as you set them up PG

that’s fine

You’re too nice PG.

Your’e the commish. Tell em to eat cake!

It went pretty fast last year. A little over a week.

It will be pretty hard to arrange a time that we can all attend.

I agree. A thread just for the draft is required and PG can do his web site again that would be great.

I’m registered as TTB…very creative.

Sounds good.

PG – Send me PM with details on how to pay.

no hay problema

To
confirm, I just grabbed a roto magazine and it doesn’t list 2b or 3b.
That would be a hell of pain to have to look it up somewhere else to
boot.

EDIT: 2b = doubles, 3b = triples.

My magazine DOES go over third basemen and second basemen.

I can’t do daily changes.

Negative scoring is “fantasy” – points for this, points for that. I think this is a “rotisserie” league that we are going for.

i think the weekly was a deadline every Sunday night to make changes.

Weeks run from Monday to Monday.

Seriously, it’s a long season. This is best for everyone.

I second that. I would hope most of us don’t have time to effectively change rosters every day. Weekly, please.

that information will be forwarded to you just before Flag Day….

pay or free?

Sorry, I only know the free one.

Only when the team is in desperate need of a rally…